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her. anyway, you know what's up next. it's bill o'reilly in the o'reilly factor and if you got a few extra minutes, go to gretawire.com. see you, good night. the o'reilly factor is on, tonight. >> will you admit that what the president said if you have a plan you will get to keep it but that was not true? >> president obama coming under withering fire because obama care is not what he said it would be. he knew he was lying? >> probably. probably. but that's one of those political lies, you know. >> tonight, we will analyze the stunning situation with charles krauthammer and james carville. the duration were october launch site did not provide enough time for testing? >> kristen we are focused not on monday morning quarterbacking. >> jay carney has perhaps the toughest job in the u.s.a. defending obama care.
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bernie goldberg will tell us how he is doing. >> why can't they just opt out? if they don't want to say so help me god, they don't have to say that part. >> it's like you say why not just opt out of not robbing a bank. >> the caves in to antireligious zealots. crowley and colmes on that case. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ >> hi had, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. is it all unraveling for president obama? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. things are getting very bad for the obama administration. it's not a partisan statement. that is reality. the president's signature issue, affordable healthcare not so affordable. and even if you want to sign up, the computer chaos makes it it very hard to do so. but the main problem, the
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main problem is president obama himself. for years he has been saying to americans they are not going to have to undergo pain when the health insurance changes. >> first, if you are one of the more than 250 million americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance. this law will only make it more secure and more affordable. >> well, for many americans that's simply not true. the initial data is clear, health insurance premiums are going up for many working americans and health insurance companies are literally tossing people off the rolls. there is no question that's happening. >> from that podium will you you admit that the president said if you you have a plan you will get to keep it that that was not true. >> let's just be clear. what the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought along by the affordable care act that create minimum
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standards of coverage. it's true there are existing healthcare plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and, therefore, do not qualify for the the affordable care act. >> so, even the president's spokesman, mr. carney, now admits mr. obama was not quite accurate in his previous statements. the question then becomes did the president knowingly mislead the nation? >> obama knew, even at the time he said it there was no guarantee everybody was going to keep their insurance because people couldn't keep their insurance under the old system. >> so he knew he was lying when he lied? >> i'm sorry? >> he knew he was lying? >> probably, probably. but that's one of those political lies, you know. >> talking points is not convinced clarence page, a liberal, is correct. here is what i think happened. mr. obama brought little critical thinking to the table on obama care and pretty much talked himself into a scenario that he wanted. that is that government can control the american health industry with little consumer downside.
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now, i'm not making excuses for the president. his vision clearly has harmed many of us. and he will pay a steep political price for that. but at this point i'm not willing to say that he intentionally lied. the evidence says he simply did not want to know the truth nor did he seek it. a little bit of difference there it's subtle. and now even the liberal press is reporting negatively on obama care. >> for many middle class americans who buy their own health insurance, there could be another frustration and that is sticker shock. after some learn they must buy new policies that cover more but cost more as well. >> that millions will lose or have to change their individual policies is not a surprise to the administration. nbc news senior investigative correspondent lisa meyers found buried in the 2010 obama care regulations language predicting a reasonable range for the percentage of individual policies that would terminate is 40% to
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67%. >> again, the question is did president obama know about the regulations and the language in the report? i don't believe he did. because he didn't read it. he doesn't pay attention to it. far more damaging than you think. if the president of the united states is not paying attention to details, this country is in huge trouble. talking points said last night and that memo is posted on bill o'reilly.com, the president simply answers he doesn't know on far too many occasions. it's your job to know, mr. president. one the dangers of liberal philosophy is i'dism. low cost healthcare for everybody. they don't take into account the -- imposing so-called
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social justice big obama theme. go to cuba you see most people are justice level playing field. we will all be poor together. no government can provide without resources because the government creates nothing, they have to take the resources away from people who have them. that's what we are seeing with the the obama care chaos. pay more for healthcare in order to subsidize the 30 million uninsured americans. president obama was never, never upfront about that now millions of americans are shocked.
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walsh how hillary clinton distances herself from mr. obama because over the next few months the obama care situation is going to get worse. the law never should have been passed. nobody really understood it, few read it, and the supreme court upheld the law on faulty reasoning. that is the truth now all of us are paying the price. and that is the memo. next on the rundown charles krauthammer will weigh in and then democrat james carville will reply and the factor is coming right back. ready to run your lines? okay, who helps you focus on your recovery?
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brilliance in the talking points memo, huh? >> i give you a plus. >> really, a plus from the doctor? that's big time. >> rarely hand them out, particularly to you. >> sure. >> on this one but you got one thing slightly wrong so maybe it's just a straight a. we talk about political lies. that's what you got from clarence page. and i don't think that's right. when a president says didn't know about the tapping of the german chancellor, that's a political lie. everybody knows that when it comes to foreign intelligence, everybody lies. it's understood. you know the old definition of a diplomat is a gentleman sent abroad to lie for his country. so that's known. but, when you are talking to your own people in trying to sell a program and you know deliberate thely you know that something is not true, but you say something so that it will pass, after which it's already the law, it's extremely hard to undo, that is a really, not a political lie. now the question is did
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obama really know that all these plans would be cancelled? now, i can't prove it. and you are assuming that he probably didn't because he doesn't pay attention. >> he doesn't pay attention. >> but here is the argument against that the argument against that is that it is an essential part of obama care that the government dictates what is supposed to be the correct level of coverage. it's the usual liberal arrogance and paternalism. we know what ought to be in your plan. you heard carney say these are substandard plans. substandard? these are plans that hundreds of thousands of americans have looked at, studied, chosen, renewed and they like. and, yet, the washington experts step in and say we know it's not a good plan and you are going to lose it now, i think obama probably -- there is no way to drill into his head and to know, but he probably knew that's an essential element of what he has created. and the reason they did this
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is as you said, and here is where you get the a, because by making plans more expensive, by adding stuff that people do not need so that you are 60 years old and you are a single guy, you are getting maternity coverage and you are paying for it. subsidizing the uninsured. instead of subsidizing them directly with a tax and being honest with that what you are trying to do is disguise it by hiking the premiums and here is what people leave out, hiking the deductibles. and that's where people are going to get real sticker shock. >> all right. but you know as well as i do in the political culture there is a cya component? it's not ymca, cover your butt. that would be cyb but they use another word for butt. >> cyp. >> i submit to you that
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barack obama is the champion of this. and that the way he administrates is i don't want to know. don't tell me. don't tell me about fast and furious. don't tell me about libya's security. don't tell me about the irs hunting down the tea party people. i'm fine with it, don't tell me. i know he didn't read the 1400 page obama care law. >> but that's not where you get that information. he would get it from the people who put the plan together. >> but he wouldn't even ask him. i bet they didn't even have a meeting with them. >> this isn't even a detail. here is where i think i have got some experience. i have met the president twice off the record. once a week before he was sworn in and once a few weeks ago. >> that's right. >> but, you know from, that impression, this is a total of six hours. i'm not an expert on him and i'm not acting as a psychiatrist. i found him to be on every issue.
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highly engaged and highly knowledgeable. he is not the kind of guy who does not care about the essence of a program even the details of a program. it's not evidence that i can say you can't refute. it's not proof that he knew about this. but, his -- the way he thinks, the way he acts and the way he has the curiosity of somebody intelligent would say that he actually probably knew. >> okay. let's assume you are right. so what you are presenting tonight is here is the president of the united states who knows of what he is saying is a lie. it's not true. but he knows it's going to be proven to be a lie. get in the way of a runup. he knows is he going to be held to account when the things that he says, you want your plan, you get to keep your plan. you want your doctor you get
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to keep your doctor. he knows that's not going to happen. you are telling me a guy like barack obama is going to put himself out for that kind of scorn? >> that's exactly what he did on benghazi. everybody knew it wasn't a spontaneous demonstration. they stuck to that story. >> he thought he could get away with that because people weren't paying attention. >> come on, paying attention. four dead americans. >> most people if you go out and ask today benghazi they don't know, charles, they do know this because it's their wallet. >> i think the mode dison ran day you look at benghazi and look at the failure of the exchanges. did anybody have an idea it was going to be a disaster? did nobody even hint at the president there might be a problem? but the benghazi, i think is conclusive. here was a story that was completely untrue. and they stuck with it. obama himself. >> hold you over for an extra minute. >> i don't know how a man could imagine he gets away
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with it. >> how does he think he is going to get away with it. >> but he has done it. >> he is not getting away with it. his whole administration is unraveling right before our eyes right no. >> he got away with it on benghazi and i would say he miscalculated on this. but his -- the way he has operated in the the past implies that he thinks with a supine press the way the media are his acolytes and absorb everything he does and are usually extremely passive, he must have thought i will get away with it the way i did on benghazi. >> it's all going down now. >> it's all speculation. look, it is possible he didn't know. >> okay. >> i'm saying it is unlikely that he didn't know. >> the a plus charles, you know, i'm going to go out. >> it's hovering now around an a. and it could even head towards a b you never know. >> let's not go overboard. >> there is always next week. >> dr. krauthammer's new book "things that matter," breaking big, ladies and gentlemen. it should debut in the top five on the "new york times" best seller list which will
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continuing with impact segment. obama care under fire. 44% of doctors in the empire state will not participate in obama care. another 33% say they may not. only 23% say they will. that will be a disaster if the numbers hold because new yorkers will have wait months in many cases to simply see a doctor. joining us now from new orleans democratic strategist james carville. first of all, i will ask the same question i asked charles. do you think president obama lied in the run up to obama care.
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>> i think he could have said i think the more accurate statement would have been that you will keep your coverage unless you are an individual market and have a so-called insurance policy that doesn't make the basic requirements. calling something health insurance. i can ensure you for ovarian cancer and it doesn't make it health northbound. >> i'm a guy. charles clarence page knew it was signature deal. he went out and mislead the american public and thought it would pass and thought he would get away from it because the president are lackeys. >> hearings on this very thing. investigating this and finding this is like investigating and coming up to the conclusion that water is wet. >> only in the last few weeks put the screws to the president on healthcare.
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>> you always knew that under the affordable healthcare act you had to have certain minimum requirements. some of these policies may not even cover hospitalizations. fine print says. the president of the united states on five occasions looked into the camera and said you know what? policy, you can keep it if you like your doctor you can keep it. that's what matters. >> the more accurate thing would have been as long as your policy meets the basic standards of affordable care act. >> all right. but he didn't say that did he. >> one of the things no one says is you get subsidies. when you say itst dos more. that's not necessarily the truth. >> some people get subsidies and some don't. >> some people do, that's right. it's absolutely true. >> the only way you could insure sick people is you have well people in the pool. that's what it is about. >> the president of the united states mislead the nation do you think he did it intentionally or didn't want to know?
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>> first of all, reported in the press. >> i don't care about the press. he mislead the nation. did he do it on purpose or not? >> i think -- i don't think -- i think what he could have made is a more nuanced accurate statement. >> did he do it on purpose or not? >> i have no idea. i don't think he actually mislead the nation. i think he could have got a more accurate statement. well, you asked me. >> bill these policies in the individual market. >> that's not what he said. what he said was misleading, james. >> you keep interrupting. you are pettifogging the issue. >> no i'm not pettifogging the issue. i'm merely saying that if you are calling something health insurance doesn't make it health insurance. >> he said five separate times if you want to keep your policy you will be able to. if you want to keep your doctor you will be able to
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and it's going to bring don't health costs for all americans. all false, all false. >> i think it's going to save the country an enormous amount of money. we will see. >> i'm going to try one more time, james, one more and if you don't answer i have to go. did he do it on purpose? did he mislead on purpose? >> first of all, i don't know -- i wouldn't accept the fact it couldn't have been more accurate i have noddy. i'm like charles i can't get in someone else's skin. i think he could have been more accurate is what i would say. >> hillary is going to distance herself. you know that? your best friend hillary is going to distance herself. >> let's see what happens here. i actually think this thing is going to be okay in the end. it's obviously this web thing is not a disaster. it's a joke. i think they will. >> hope springs eternal. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> james carville, everybody. there he is. living big in the big easy. plenty more aheads the factor moves along this evening. white house spokesman james carney has to defend obama
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weekdays with bernie seeing many tonight, jay carney, has the toughest job in the country. >> the critics can making the president that the president appears to be in the dark about some pretty
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significant controversies swirling around this white house. >> the republicans critics say a lot of things. >> is it conceivable, if it's believable, that the president would not the know about surveillance of a head of state of a close american ally? i mean, is that -- does that sound plausible to you? >> i like the effort at coming at this in a different way and i would say simply that we're not going to comment on specific activities reported in the press. >> the administration aware of the october 1st launch site that didn't have enough time? >> kristen we are focused not on monday morning quarterbacking. >> joining us now from miami the purveyor of bernard goldberg.com mr. goldberg. how is carney doing? >> well, this past summer, bill, on this very program, you asked me about jay carney and i told you that he reminded me of baghdad
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bob, the clown who ran interference for saddam hussein. and you pretty much said that that was unfair, he was just doing his job. you are right, bill. he was just doing his job. so let's be clear about what his job is his job is to make the president look good, period. and in order to do that, he has to mislead the american people, if he has to tell mumbo jumbo half truths to the american people, or worse, he will do it because that's his job. some people may find that loyal, i don't. >> i don't either. mr. carney had a legitimate job in journal before he took this job. >> when he had the job in journalism he had to at least pretend to be honest. now that he is on the team he doesn't have to pretend to be honest because he is in public relations right now. >> not being dishonest he is spinning, dodging, dancing, whatever. you know, he is not -- he is
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very careful, much more careful than his boss by the way in not making a declarative sentence that you could prove wrong as barack obama obviously did. >> fair enough. >> the question is carney serving the people who pay his salary you me and everybody else's job? >> the answer is a definitively no. he is not looking out for the american people. is he lookg out for one person, the president of the united states. this isn't just about jay carney. let's talk for a minute about the so-called mainstream media look, they have finally figured out that the rollout of obama care is a big giant mess. okay. better late than never. they are also doing stories about how the premiums are going to go up. that's all fine. but the next big story, bill, is the one that you are already touching on. did the president
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intentionally and that's the key word, did he intentionally mislead the american people when he said we can keep our own doctor, on own healthcare plan, our premiums wouldn't go up or, or, as you think it did he not even know -- signature healthcare reform plan. it comes down to one of two things. either, he was incompetent or, and this is a word i don't like to use with any president, he lied to the american people. that ought to be something that the mainstream media starts digging in to find out. >> we're in to tonight very very hard, but it's a very very tough thing. it isn't that i don't think that he did his research into obama care, i believe that he didn't want to know. so you know people know
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people who -- let me make it very stark for everybody. you have a kid, a son or a daughter, bad kid, bad kid but you don't want to know. you want that kid to be good because you believe that he or she is yours and it's good and it is just stuff there. but you don't want to know. there is a lot of people, they call it in denial. they don't want to hear it i believe that in this obama care case, that's where that president might be, i could be wrong. >> in my most generous moments, i would have sympathy with that parent who doesn't want to know. i have no sympathy, zero sympathy for a president of the united states who doesn't want to know because it would be inconvenient for him. two damn bad. he ought to know. that's his job. >> that's his job. >> and when he doesn't want to he know. he doesn't want to know
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because that's a plausible didn't. >> that's right. >> you you can't blame me, i didn't know. not good enough. >> that's the yya culture in which we live and almost every politician that we know of, goldberg follows that. don't tell me. i want to to have didn't. they confer from people like clarence page. probably lied but hey, that's the way it goes in politics. that's a disgraceful answer coming from a prominent journalist. you don't lie about stuff like this this obama care is really about a thousand times worse than even i thought it would be. >> do you think end of the administration. >> do you think it's a lie. >> do you think it's the end of obamast administration? his credibility is so bad he can't come back he is lame duck for three years. >> i have great admiration for magic. i think this guy has magic. the magic is wearing thin i
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will grant you that. >> i don't think so. >> he has counted on the press and they have come through for him until now. he has counted on the stupidity of the american people and they may continue to come through for him. >> i don't think so. i think this is it. >> until they get their premium, bill and it's three times the size. >> that's coming soon. this is the end. i could be wrong on all ofthis. bernie goldberg, everybody. when we come right back is it legal is porter barn offending asians americans. if you've got copd like me, hey breathing's hard. know the feeling? copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis.
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>> thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly in the is it legal segment tonight. three hot topics, aging asian americans store stop halloween costume sale. with us is kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. tell me why these costumes. put them up on the screen. >> put them up. >> tell me why they are offensive. >> the can i money know is kimono. >> that's the guy in a traditional asian kimoo. >> this is a sushi chef. >> i like that. >> elegant.
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look, if you. >> so that's offensive? >> apparently to this organization it's offensive. but, absolutely. look. >> i don't want any apparentlies. offensive or not? >> no. >> i have the kimono at home. it's nice. >> why didn't you wear it? >> i should have. >> so two nos. let's put the sushi guy up again. i don't need sushi because japanese means bacteria. i could be wrong about that i thought that this guy was the soccer player in japan. oh, no, no, no. so he is a sushi chef, what's offensive about a sushi chef? >> the organization says they didn't sue but if they would sue they would sue for defamation. >> negligent or intentional or emotional distress. apparently there was a japanese flag on this and this is offensive. >> doesn't sushi emanate from japan? do i have the right now to sue if someone dresses like
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a leprechaun am i going to do that. >> apparently the irish are the only ones not offended. >> getting to the point where you have to have nothing but animal costumes and peta will be involved. porter barn gave in to. this dispute arose with the asian community. >> san francisco base. >> right. publicly humiliated to do something. >> went on the web site on porter barn to see if i could buy one of these things. they are unavailable. >> all right. this is probably the dumbest thing i have seen in quite some time. >> it's one of them. >> here is topic two and this is a serious situation. now, there is a law in the works in the house that would forbid public schools in the united states from hiring any workers convicted of sexual offenses against children. all right? >> sure. >> good law, all right? >> hr 2083. >> teacher unions guilfoyle. >> they are upset. >> they're objecting to the law; is that right? >> that's correct. it's the american federation
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of teachers and national federation offensive. try to back it up and say listen we generally support background checks but we feel this is not allowing criminals and sexually violent predators the opportunity redeem themselves. >> american federation of teachers say no, no, no. we want to make the law stronger. >> no, that's not the case. >> that's wrong. they are misleading. >> misleading again, the theme of the whole show. >> at least 30 states in the country that do not allow sex offenders near schools, to live near schools. wait a second, you can't live near a school but be employed in the same school? >> computer course. >> the problem is too they are saying that these background checks are unfair to minorities but racist statement to begin with. this would disproportionately effect minorities problematic background check. >> i don't think there is any data that says minorities commit sex
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offenses. >> that is not appropriate. so that's not a good reason either. >> teacher unions, upholding their reputation of being insane. >> and the senate i have a minute left. this doctor who is in jail for distributing drugs to michael jackson. he is out less than two years. >> four year sentence out in less than two years. overcrowding in california. >> overcrowding? >> maybe he could have brought the gas in to the prison. no, that's a ghoulish joke. halloween week. travesty of justice? >> he should have done more time but given the nature of the sentence and, yes, california. >> california? >> not surprising. not surprising. he is now one of the worst in there put it that way. >> he hasn't been sued civilly this guy. >> he won't be, he can't be. >> why? >> statue of limitations has passed. >> jackson died in 2009. statue of limitation three years. >> so the the jackson family went off after the concert promoter, that probably was
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the wrong target? but he doesn't have any money anyway. >> they have the money and maybe this guy is supposed to go pursue his career as a singer. he still a doctor. >> he didn't lose his medical license. >> no, he has lost his medical license. >> but he still is potential lay medical doctor. he apparently wants to be a singer is. >> ladies, thank you very much. a appreciate it god under fire once again in america. this time the air force academy is involved. omg moments away. [ horn honks ]
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back of the book segment tonight, more attacks on god at the air force academy in colorado. cadets take an honor oath, they swear they will not lie, cheat, or steal. at the end of the oath they say so help me god or at
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least they used to. now the anti-god organization the military religious freedom foundation has won a battle against the oath. it now be optional. here now to analyze monica cawley and alan colmes. monica, who made the decision at the honor academy to make it optional? >> one said it would be optional thing. others west point and other say v. it optional. they said we are happy to do that as well. >> so everybody is happy with this? are you you happy with it. >> i am not happy with it because i think they were subjected to an intimidation campaign by this guy nice weinstein who heads up this religious freedom group. they put the skews like they have so many other organizations there he is and they caved into the pressure. >> you know, look, let's look at it from the atheist point of view. if you are in the air force or army, navy, marines, whatever, you can be a atheist, you are not barred. so you go in and you believe there is no god, so what do you have to say so help me god? doesn't it make sense?
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i think in that case you were never forced to actually say it you could stop the oath before so help me god. so help me god george washington when he was first inaugurated as president impulsively added thatwashingto he was president, added that phrase to the presidential oath of office. and since then, it has been a tradition -- >> how do you know james madison wanted it -- >> it is just a fact, it is all over. james madison wanted to separate church and state, and didn't think god should be -- and thomas jefferson rewrote the bible. >> number one, it is a fact that george washington inserted "so help me god." that is a fact. >> and madison -- >> who reported that? >> it is like who reported george washington was the first president of the united states
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-- >> so i'm going to say you don't know who reported it. as a presidential historian, i have never seen that james madismad -- objected to. >> by the way, there was no oath, under god, or so help me god. all of a sudden, conservatives act like they're being put upon, if they don't want to say it. if you don't want to say it, say it. >> i don't have a beef with it, if you're an atheist and you don't want to say it. but if you're a christian and jew, you can still say "so help me god" if you want to. >> remember the founders when they talked about separation of church and state. it was not barring god from the -- it was the increased secularization of the country -- >> we're a secular country. >> no, that is not true.
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judeo/christian values. >> where are the judeos, there were hardly any -- >> maybe you don't understand, and you should read "killing jesus." when christianity was formed, they incorporated a lot of jewish traditions. and in the supreme court, as you know, there are the ten commandments on display. which is a reminder that our criminal code, justice system is based on the judeo/christian -- >> i agree -- >> but if you really felt strongly, you could move to cuba. and if you really felt it was wrong, you could wake up and say, i'm going somewhere else. >> i can have a difference with things without moving to cuba. >> but i don't want you, alan colmes, to be unhappy. >> when you look at the history
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of the regimes whether they're communist or fascist, one of the first things they do is strip god out of life. and make the state -- we have been arguing about this a long time, the secular progressives, that is what we're arguing here. >> there is no doubt that this nation has changed from primarily the juder/christian -- >> if we're supposed to be a judeo/christian country, why are not -- >> all men are created equal by god. all right, the factor tip of the day. the movie "killing kennedy" ready to be seen by you. the tip moments away. my asthma's under control. i get out a lot... except when it's too cold. like the last three weekends. asthma doesn't affect my job... you missed the meeting again last week! it doesn't affect mfamily. your coughing woke me up again.
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are liking it. again, thank you for joining us tonight. ms. megyn kelly up next. i am bill o'reilly. and please always remember that the spin stops right here. because we are definitely looking out for you. good evening, i'm megyn kelly, and this is the kelly file. breaking tonight, the white house seems to be in panic mode. they are firing out about the president's explicitly clear health care law which did not turn out to be true. promise, if you like your plan, if you like your doctor you can keep them. we heard it over and over and over again. fact, over ten, perhaps as many as 15, perhaps more million people will lose their plans. and perhaps their doctors. and this

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